In this episode Shireen Ahmed interviews Daniel Sailofsky, a lecturer in criminology and sociology at Middlesex University London, whose research examines gender and gender-based violence, masculinity, sport sociology and labor, and the sociology of law. They discuss Sailofsky's recent article in The Guardian called, "NFL season is here but I won’t be following anymore. I can’t un-see the harm it causes." They talk about his decision to say goodbye to a longtime NFL fandom, which includes known reports about the damages of CTE to players and the way the league does not care about violence against women perpetrated by the league's members.

This episode was produced by Tressa Versteeg. Shelby Weldon is our social media and website specialist. Burn It All Down is part of the Blue Wire podcast network.

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