What happens when two veteran real estate agents with nearly four decades of combined experience sit down to discuss how meditation transforms their approach to this demanding profession? The answer is a profound conversation that pulls back the curtain on both the challenges and opportunities of bringing mindfulness practices into a commission-based career.

Steve Matsumoto brings 19 years of California real estate wisdom to this discussion, sharing how he transitioned from classroom teacher to real estate professional just before the 2008 recession hit. His journey into mindfulness wasn't immediate – it emerged about seven years into his career as he recognized the need for better mental tools to handle what he calls the "roller coaster" nature of the business.

The conversation dives into real estate's unique stressors: the challenge of earning a first client's trust, the uncertainty of when business will materialize (sometimes taking years), and the emotional weight of representing clients through major life transitions. Both agents share candid insights about how meditation helps them avoid becoming "drama amplifiers" during difficult transactions, staying present with clients while maintaining the professional perspective needed to navigate challenges effectively.

Perhaps most valuably, Steve offers perspective gained from facing his worst fears during the housing crisis – a practice that built remarkable resilience and clarity about what truly matters. He reflects on how meditation helped him prioritize family and develop consistency through market fluctuations, offering advice to newer agents about sustainability in this demanding career.

This conversation isn't about achieving meditation mastery but rather bringing moments of presence throughout your day that transform how you communicate with clients, other agents, and yourself. For real estate professionals seeking both success and wellbeing, this episode delivers practical wisdom about using mindfulness to create what Steve beautifully defines as a truly "rich life" – having autonomy over your time to create meaningful experiences with those who matter most.

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