The SnakesCast is very lucky this week to be visited by Justin Gary, the lead designer of Ascension. We've talked about deckbuilding games on the show before, and Ascension was a watershed in the genre. In this episode we discuss the process of creating the game, the ways it departed from the original formula established by Dominion, and the reasons why Ascension's newer formula became so powerfully influential, paving the way for so many deckbuilding games that followed after.