Nick interviews Carolyn Campbell, Executive Director of the Coalition for Sonoran Desert Protection. Murphy's Law interfered with Zoom, then Skype, then Nick's desktop recording setup -- but the two persevered to discuss Tucson's recent declaration of a climate emergency, the Coalition's 2020 Strategic Plan, the proposed Interstate I-11, and why climate resiliency matters. And, in a callback to Episode 002: more about skunks!