This week's special guest is Lydwina, Lenny's cat! Lou and Lenny discuss the first eleven chapters of Timothy Zahn's Specter of the Past (1997) because they had to take a break once Corran Horn showed up in this book. Lou has thoughts about foundational myth in relation to Zahn's own canon within a canon. The two discuss New Republic society and political responses to genocide. 

Note: Lenny misspoke and did not say BCE when discussing Sophocles. They apologize. 

Hosts: Lenny Apesos and Lou Laverty

Art: Lenny Apesos 

Music: Thomas Seibel

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Further Reading: 

Maude Shawl by Paula Kibildis

How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Love the Mask 

Gym, Tan, Laundry 

Buddy Cianci 

ISO 8601

The Warriors 

No Greater Enemy by Karasov

The Hitleriad by A.M. Klein

An Uncomplicated Man by Emily Wilson

Romance of the Three Kingdoms

Anabasis 

Lamb by Christopher Moore 

The Maltese Falcon

The Cambodian Genocide 

Fellas, is it gay to think your boys look hotter when they are sad?

As always, Lou and Lenny ask only the most important questions in their discussion of Aaron Allston’s Starfighters of Adumar (1999). The two discuss Wedge Antilles’ self-esteem and romantic relationships, but not before discussing hand sewing and Lou’s thoughts on Star Trek: DS9. Lenny also happened to do some cursory research on the CIA’s use of jazz “diplomacy” in its neo-colonial war against self-determination in The Democratic Republic of the Congo, and makes a shaky comparison to this book. 

Hosts: Lenny Apesos and Lou Laverty

Art: Lenny Apesos 

Music: Thomas Seibel

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Notes:  

Thighs Wide Shut

Interview with the director of Soundtrack to a Coup d’Etat

Crafting An Epic: The Making of the New Jedi Order

In discussing the back half of I, Jedi (1998), Lou and Lenny uncover the similarities between social media algorithms and the dark side of the force. The duo then continue to raise questions about Corran Horn’s character, particularly in relation to his views on women. If this sounds concerningly on-topic for these two, fear not! The episode begins with a discussion of how movies from the 1960s can, in fact, be good as well as a look at how some MLB and NHL players have names that make them sound like they are from the galaxy, far, far away. 

Hosts: Lenny Apesos and Lou Laverty

Art: Lenny Apesos 

Music: Thomas Seibel

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Further Reading:

The Game, by Ken Dryden (1983)

Dr. No (1962)

GoldenEye 007 

HoloNet News “Tryshyn / Ardees Deal Worth 3.1 Billion”

“Stay on your phone (within reason)” by Adam Aleksic 

Reconstruction

The Voting Rights Act and Redistricting  

Have you ever wondered what happens when someone with ADHD takes their meds too early in the day? Well you’re in luck! On this episode of Interview With A Bothan, Lou and Lenny attempt to tackle the first 25 chapters of I, Jedi (1998). Is this done successfully? That is debatable but there is discussion of copaganda, AI, and clouds. 

Hosts: Lenny Apesos and Lou Laverty

Art: Lenny Apesos 

Music: Thomas Seibel

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Further Reading: 

Bon Cop, Bad Cop

In Too Deep 

“The Seahorse” by Jean Painlevé (1935)

“Policing the Procedural” (2022) by Sarah Rebecca Kessler 

“Watchmen, Copaganda, and Abolition Futurities in US Television” (2022) by Jessica Hatrick and Olivia González

Lenny and Lou are back in the trenches with Isard’s Revenge (1999) by Michael A. Stackpole. Before they talk much about the Galaxy Far Far Away’s leadership crisis, however, the two get sidetracked by a discussion of Montréal mayoral politics and the cost of groceries. Bringing it back to slightly more relevant matters, Lou and Lenny marvel at the New Republic’s hawkish neoliberalism and ponder how to make NATO funnier. 

Hosts: Lenny Apesos and Lou Laverty

Art: Lenny Apesos 

Music: Thomas Seibel

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Further reading: 

Works Progress Administration 

UN Partition of Palestine

The Christmas Truce

NATO military exercises naming conventions 

Lenny is out of the country doing some medical tourism, so enjoy this review of The Mandalorian and Grogu. We recorded this the day the film came out, so apologies for any misconceptions we have about the film itself or anything else. This episode features Thomas Seibel!

Hosts: Lenny Apesos and Lou Laverty

Art: Lenny Apesos 

Music: Thomas Seibel

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Lou and Lenny are taking a quick detour from the X-Wing series to cover The Courtship of Princess Leia (1994). The duo is struck by Han Solo’s unfortunate similarities to Corran Horn in this book, prompting questions about Corellian society at large. Lou then divulges just how much they know about Corellia, while despairing about the decline of baseball. Lenny shares their findings about Canon vs. Legends depictions of Dathomir. 

Hosts: Lenny Apesos and Lou Laverty

Art: Lenny Apesos 

Music: Thomas Seibel

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Further Reading:

Babylon Berlin

Leslye Headland worked for Harvey Weinstein 

Signs Twilight Was Written by a Mormon by Alyssa Grenfell 

Generation Tech on Dathomiri Nightsisters

Tales of the Empire

“The Courtship of Princess Leia, Explained Badly” by Crayshack

This episode, Lou and Lenny allegedly talk about the last instalment of the Wraith Squadron Trilogy, Solo Command (1999). In reality, Lou is losing their mind over the status of Montreal’s public services and Lenny is possessed by the ‘average Tik-Tok creator’ who is seemingly unaware of the industrial revolution.

Trigger warning timestamp 1:18:11-1:33:11 for discussion of Unit 731/Nazi medical experimentation. 

Hosts: Lenny Apesos and Lou Laverty

Art: Lenny Apesos 

Music: Thomas Seibel

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Further reading:

Skyline Dip 

Tyler the creator cooking a waffle

So You Just Gon' Bring Me a Birthday Gift on My Birthday to My Birthday Party

Earl sweatshirt i don’t care

Cleveland health villain era

This episode, Lou and Lenny are covering Iron Fist (1998), the second Wraith Squadron book and sixth in the X-Wing Series! As of this recording, Lou is a week out from their wisdom tooth removal. Lenny has thoughts and feelings about Myn Donos and technofascism, which are more related than one might think. They also ask the question, are Corellian men bad in bed?

Hosts: Lenny Apesos and Lou Laverty

Art: Lenny Apesos 

Music: Thomas Seibel

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Further Reading:

Hackers (1995)

Tosche Station Allston interview (2012)

It Could Happen Here (Network State)

The Modern Family Cookbook (1942)

Mrs. Beeton's Book of Household Management (1861)

Masculinity and the Making of American Judaism

While discussing Aaron Allston’s Wraith Squadron (1998) Lenny and Lou initially focus on the ethics and history of the use of bioweapons but at some point start playing smash or pass with Canadian Prime Ministers. Lenny gets serious about workplace rights and protections and reveals more about their day job than they probably should. The duo then discuss the diagnostic criteria for PTSD and how most internet trends can be linked to fascist propaganda. 

Hosts: Lenny Apesos and Lou Laverty

Art: Lenny Apesos 

Music: Thomas Seibel

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Further reading: 

To Sir Phillip, With Love- Julia Quinn

Republic Commando Series- Karen Traviss

Best and Worst Canadian prime ministers 1999

October Crisis

Tall Girl

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