Modern permaculture educator Aaron Ogden joins Kay from his third-generation family homestead in Ojai, California, USA.  They discuss wide-ranging topics including healing family legacies, the earth school, betrayal, love, spirituality, masculinity, femininity, and the gifts of intuition in this episode of Alive & Kicking.

Away from the microphone, Aaron Ogden offers clients services in astrology, healing bodywork and Ancient Earth Traditions. He leads yoga and nature retreats world-wide. Follow Aaron on Facebook at Seeds of Awakening, on Instagram, or connect with his many offerings, including an annual men's gathering at AaronOgden.com - Consciousness for Resilient Living.