Pretoria, South Africa is the next stop on the Celeb Savant podcast. Barret Edelstein spoke with South African singer and songwriter Deard. He explains that he followed his dream of pursuing music after his mom convinced him to, what his creative process is, and much more.

Website - www.deard.org

Instagram - @deard_official

Facebook - @Official.Deard

Twitter - @deard_official