Jennifer Shahade (@JenShahade) is the host of what might be the greatest poker podcast of all time --- the wildly ambitious Poker Grid podcast. Jen has a fascinating background - a longtime poker player, she is also a two-time US Women's Chess Champion. We spend about half of the time discussing the Poker Grid podcast (which features 169 poker players talking about the 169 possible Texas Holdem hands), and half the time discussing a wide assortment of other topics including her chess background, the best poker books of all time, and the best way to teach kids chess.