In this fascinating conversation we cover balanced training, punishment, living in the moment, thresholds and boundaries, how dogs are different from humans, the importance of being calm, assertive and confident, that everything you do is training, whether you mean it or not, love as action, building trust, love and power, imaginary emotional problems, personalities, communicating in the language that’s understood, avoiding mixed messages - it’s about what you’re doing, not what you’re saying, ABC: activity, boundaries, and calm & consistent leadership, meeting physical and social needs, managing post-covid issues, managing social pressures, and shared territories.