This episode is a conversation with Joseph Grantham. He publishes books with his press Disorder Press, he's the editor-in-chief at The Nervous Breakdown, and he just released a new book of poetry on Holler Presents called Raking Leaves. We talk about living with great writers, moving to Baltimore, the psychological effects of promoting yourself on social media, and I offer him some job interview advice. This episode features three poems written and narrated by Joseph Grantham. Music by Michael Kilcullen.