The Soul Proprietor

Interview with Josh Latimer Part 3


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In Part 3 of Curt and Melody’s conversation with Josh Latimer, the discussion moves far beyond business tactics and into the deeper questions entrepreneurs wrestle with underneath the surface.

Josh shares candidly about boredom in business, the tension between creativity and leadership, why so many entrepreneurs chase goals they don’t actually want, and how identity shapes pricing, confidence, growth, and decision-making.

The episode explores the difference between cravings created by outside expectations versus genuine desires rooted in purpose and conviction. Curt, Melody, and Josh also unpack sales psychology, delegation, startup culture, mentorship, boundaries, and what it really takes to grow into the next version of yourself.

This conversation feels equal parts business coaching session, philosophical discussion, and honest reflection on the emotional side of entrepreneurship.

Key Takeaways:

  • Most of what entrepreneurs claim they want is just social conditioning—figuring out your real, internally-motivated desire is a much messier process.
  • Serving customers you “should” want to help (instead of the ones who value you) is a fast road to burnout and under-earning.
  • Boundaries actually make people respect you more—overgiving just makes everyone (yourself included) take your value for granted.
  • Pricing transforms how your clients show up (and how you see yourself). Sometimes doubling your price is the most generous thing you can do for both sides.
  • Iterating in public, embracing mistakes, and treating your business as a living "science experiment" beats waiting for perfect.

Timestamps:

  • [00:00:00] Desires vs. cravings and deathbed regrets
  • [00:07:13] The “so that” story that strips ambition to the core
  • [00:16:13] Melody’s “oughtness” trap and finding the right customer
  • [00:24:07] Pricing, confidence, and the weird truth about value
  • [00:33:35] Boundaries, burnout, and the hard lessons of letting go
  • [00:56:37] F.R.A.P. and the art (and science) of making profit actually work
  • [01:07:08] Can you market ethically and build wealth? (Hint: yes)

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The Soul ProprietorBy Melody Edwards and Curt Kempton