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* <a href="https://www.meetup.com/PHP-Vegas/" target="_blank">PHPUG Las Vegas</a> 
* <a href="http://www.zendcon.com/" target="_blank">ZendCon 2017</a> 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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* <a href="https://www.meetup.com/PHP-Vegas/" rel="noopener noreferrer">PHPUG Las Vegas</a> 
* <a href="http://www.zendcon.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer">ZendCon 2017</a> 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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