Lulie and Gordon Gund have an incredible story. After Gordon went blind at age 30 due to a genetic disease called retinitis pigmentosa, he, alongside his wife, Lulie, has spent his life working to find a cure. In this podcast, Kelly and Tom discuss the tnp Ideafilm The Illumination, which celebrates the Gunds' relationship and story, the challenges they have faced and how the struggles have strengthened their marriage. Also included is part of an interview that Kelly conducted with Lulie and Gordon in 2017, which is a humorous and inspiring conversation that gives insight into how they met, their family, their miraculous foundation, Gordon’s accomplished career and day-to-day life.