In this interview, Michael describes his spiritual path of Zen Buddhism and subsequent awakening experience(s) that led to an end to identification with the sense of a separate self (aka ego). He talks about how this shift influenced the way he interacted with clients as a clinical psychologist. We also discussed the scientific evidence that dispels the idea of free will, and what the implications are of that discovery. Michael's book, Awake and Alive: Being What You Already Are, is available in hardcopy and Kindle. He is currently hosting regular online meditation group meetings through his Facebook page.