Michael Overlie is my guest on this episode. We talk about what dogs bring to our lives. He has had dogs his whole life and knows that dogs teach us much if we are willing to learn. In this episode, he talks about how those dogs have been there for him. In addition to a book he's written about his life with dogs, he teaches a course helping to 'Create Men of Purpose.' . Michael's website is https://dogsandmen.com/ Course Coupon code: presence