Griffin interviews Mike Asbury, organizer of the NY Braver Angels Organization, a group dedicated to lessening the polarization in this country, cooling inflammatory left-right divides, and transmitting the value of civil disagreement and debate without hate or violence. Griffin talks to him about the unique political moment we’re in, if and how we can heal, and his take on the current state of civil divides in 2021. (Per our guest’s request, you can contact him to follow up on anything at 518-817-3877, or [email protected]). Rate and review the podcast!