Patriek Karayil is a C-suite advisor, White House Presidential Innovation Fellow & Board Member of the American Education Board. Marianna chats to Patriek about the serendipitous nature of his career, digital transformation for the US government, & what it was really like working at The White House. Marianna and Patriek debate the merits of an European education vs the concerning state of US education, and the alarming rise of AI startups.