In this episode of Certainty for Eternity, Mark Gilbert and Rayne Orange sit down with Rachel Ciano, historian and theological educator, to explore how Roman Catholics understand Mary, the mother of Jesus - and how that differs from the biblical picture of Mary.Rachel unpacks the historical development of Marian devotion, from the early Church to modern dogmas such as the Immaculate Conception and Assumption of Mary, and offers thoughtful guidance for Protestants seeking to have respectful, grace-filled conversations with Catholic friends and family.If you’ve ever wondered why Mary matters so much in Catholic theology and how Protestants can respond with gentleness and truth, this episode will deepen your understanding and strengthen your faith in Christ.⏱️ Timestamps00:00 – Welcome to Certainty for Eternity00:41 – Introducing Dr Rachel Ciano01:35 – How Roman Catholics relate to Mary02:44 – Shrines and Marian devotion in everyday life03:17 – Mary’s presence in Catholic culture and childhood04:37 – How Mary connects with the Roman Catholic system06:46 – Protestant question: how did Mary become a co-redeemer?07:06 – Early apocryphal writings and the rise of Marian dogmas08:50 – Immaculate Conception and Assumption of Mary explained10:32 – How Protestants can engage Catholic friends about Mary11:48 – What it means to be a “faithful communicant” Catholic12:43 – Jesus’ closeness vs. Mary’s comfort13:40 – “A battle of loves” — why Jesus’ love is greater14:22 – Closing reflections and thanks🕊️ Key ThemesUnderstanding Catholic devotion to MaryMary’s role in the history of Christian theologyHow Marian dogmas developedProtestant - Catholic dialogue with empathyJesus’ humanity and divinity compared to Mary’s roleSharing faith through love, not argument📚 Resources MentionedTen Dead Gals You Should Know by Rachel Cianohttps://www.amazon.com.au/Dead-Gals-You-Should-Know/dp/1527110419Certainty for Eternity podcast episode on Mary: Mother of God or Misunderstood?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D-Kphwfo7gI#CertaintyForEternity #ChristianPodcast #MaryMotherOfGod #UnderstandingCatholicism #ProtestantVsCatholic #BiblicalTheology #FaithConversations #JesusSaves #Apologetics #ChristianFaith #MarkGilbert #RayneOrange #RachelCiano