For this episode, Ekman and Hank are joined by their friend Renne! We talk about what it's like to be non-religious in religious spaces and also about how retreats are occasionally emotionally manipulative.

Ekman and Renne also talk about which of Hanks friends they've had crushes on. All the names have been censored, so as to avoid boosting too many egos.

Special Guest: Renne Richards.