Chris talks with Pastor Trey Ferguson about whiteness, the Jesus we don't recognize, and when material privilege is spiritual death. 

Find Trey on Substack at pastortreyr05.substack.com and on Twitter at @PastorTrey05. Contact Chris at chrisfurr.com.

The Straight White Male podcast is recorded at Arbor Ridge Studios in Chapel Hill, NC and produced by Jeff Crawford. Find Jeff and the studio at arborridgestudios.com. Music by Josh Kimbrough.