This is a special edition of Wholly Buyable.
From now on, at the end of each season, I'm hoping to interview people outside the church about their take on God, the Bible and religion. 
I’m keen to hear what outsiders think of what has always been seen as property of the church.
Shaun McIlrath  is Global Chief Creative Officer of thew advertising agency network, iris.
We talk about growing up in Ireland during the troubles, his own personal take on the bonuses and pitfalls of religion and some other podcasts which you might also wish to listen to.

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Produced by Chas Bayfield
Music by Michael Auld and Jon Hawkins Music
Cover art by Lisa Goff