Steve and I are runners who have crossed paths over the years on the running road without ever having really stopped to chat and pass the time of day! He read my book a few months ago, which opened a dialogue on facebook, so it was very enjoyable to meet him face to face and find out that the phoenix has been a powerful symbol for us both throughout our lives. Listening to Steve tell his story and how he maintains the belief that when everything is lost it is still possible to rise from the ashes is an inspiring message for living – and Steve tells of how he has followed the wise words that encourage and teach that if you fall down seven times, get up eight!