This recording was done on Friday the 23rd of December 2022 at his office on Jalan Langgak Golf in Kuala Lumpur. He gave some opinions on his contemporary and former colleague in UMNO as well as Semangat 46- Dato Harun Idris. We also discussed past and present politics of Kelantan and he elaborated on some of his work in Petronas and the PDA of 1974 . For more information you can follow @theharundiaries on instagram. Allahyarham Dato Harun Idris on Facebook and contact me on @AshaariShah on twitter