In this episode, I interview Reed Coverdale, in charge of the Naturalist Capitalist youtube channel, and Sam Smith the head of the LiBROtarian podcast who are both leaders in the Amash/Gabbard 2024 movement which has the intention of having Representatives Justin Amash of Michigan and Representative Tulsi Gabbard of Hawai'i, be the winning Presidential candidates in 2024 for the Libertarian Party. In the episode, we discuss Libertarian ideology, connections between Amash/Gabbard 2024 and the Unity 2020 movement, and overall the problems in our country, culture, and politics today that would be addressed by an Amash and Gabbard ticket.