Daniel & Ben talk with novelist Tony D’Souza, author of “White Man” and “Mule.” D’Souza talks about his latest novel “Mule,” about a struggling writer who turns to drug running to make a living. He discusses the research behind “Mule,” and why the book had such a hard time getting published. D’Souza also talks about why his first book “White Man” is similar to “Mule,” and about the difficulty following up an acclaimed first novel.

Benjamin Saenz remembers poet Adrienne Rich, who passed away on March 27, by reading her poem “Tonight No Poetry will Serve.”

Writer Amy Hassigner reflects on originality in this week’s Poetic License.