It was an honor to be interviewed by Toronto based social scientist, Ashish Garga, on his podcast Frame of Reference. In this interview, I share slices of the journey that lead to my personality algorithm. So grateful for Ashish's genuine interest and patience, I am humbled by his choice to not edit down my story. Please check out his other innovative and culturally powerful episodes on

https://anchor.fm/ashish-garga/episodes/Frame-of-Reference---Innovators--Creators---Nechama-Robinson-e1aqo69