Writer and podcaster Graeme McMillan has a lot to say about Jack Kirby, and for that matter so does Elle. Subtopics include Fantastic Four, New Gods, OMAC, The Eternals, Captain America and the Falcon, Big Barda, and more, plus a bonus consideration of Steve Ditko. If this episode leaves you hungry for Kirby comics, you can go to Comixology right this minute and pick up OMAC #1, the beginning of his gonzo Captain America run, the Devil Dinosaur story where the aliens show up, or the best stand-alone issue of Fantastic Four. You should also follow Graeme on Twitter and Tumblr, and listen to his podcast.