This week we get to talk to one of the legends of the window game, Mr. Doug Apt! We all know him from his work with J Racenstein, but do you know how he got there? Let me just tell you it isn't how you thought. Find out what makes him tick, why relationships are more valuable to him than a sale, and how his thirst for knowledge led him to where he is now. Listen in as Host Fernando Medina and he chat about the evolution of waterfed poles, that first drop off of a high rise, and why he wants to know EVERY SINGLE WINDOW CLEANER in the US.