My next guest is David Hastilow, you might have heard of him, but probably not. 20 years ago Dave learned to kitesurf, like so many of us he became hooked and fell in love with the sport. From those humble beginnings, he has gone on to become the division manager for Cabrinha, one of the biggest kiteboarding brands in the business, second only to Pete Cabrinha, the driving force of the brand. 

 Some of you listening to this might have just learned to kitesurf, just imagine where 20 years might take you. Dave's incredible journey was fuelled by an amazing ability to say YES. Even when it meant uprooting his wife and missing out on a house they had put a deposit on. Or when saying yes meant leaving the idyllic life in the Caribbean to return to England. Dave's a yes man and it's taken him a long way. 

 We chat about how he got into kiteboarding, his time as a kite tester, arguably one of the better jobs in the sport, dodging sharks and surf foiling, the new craze sweeping Maui There is plenty more in this one too, I really hope you enjoy it!