Imagine a room full of highly experienced university leaders.

There are millions of dollars on the line. Entire academic programs. The futures of students.

Everyone has data. Everyone has strong opinions. Everyone cares deeply.

And no one can agree on what to do next.

In higher education, we are surrounded by intelligence, expertise, and commitment. But when it comes to solving our most complex challenges, we often draw from the same set of ideas, the same peer institutions, and the same playbook.

This podcast starts from a different premise.

What if the answers we need aren’t just inside higher education?

What if we expanded how we learn?