Even the best efforts to create a perfect product can be thwarted by unexpected issues and recording a podcast is no different. We can let the interruptions, disruptions, and hiccups of the world prevent us from making a difference or we can design for disruption and innovate for the real world. The Censemaking Innovation Podcast is all about innovation and what it means to do this in practice. It’s about making change and designing our products, services, and ourselves for the way the world is and not just how we want it. Join me, Dr. Cameron Norman, as I explore the world of innovation from psychology to design to systems thinking, strategy, evaluation and the entire art, science and practice of making change happen.