In this special episode, we’re sharing a conversation Ray had on the new podcast, Other People’s Pockets. On Other People’s Pockets, journalist Maya Lau asks people from all walks of life to get radically transparent about their personal finances in order to learn more about who we are and level the financial playing field along the way. Ray and Maya chat about how Ray found it difficult to find desirable jobs the older he gets … and he’s not afraid to admit he’s angry about it.

If you like what you hear, be sure to listen to Other People’s Pockets at https://podcasts.pushkin.fm/opp?sid=broke.