In this debut episode of This Ain't It, Matthew and Melissa open up about their journey from being lifelong Southern Baptists and Republicans to becoming outspoken critics of Christian nationalism and voices for a more inclusive faith. With honesty, humor, and plenty of backstory, they share what led them to leave the Southern Baptist Church, how their perspectives on politics and religion have shifted over time, and why they believe questioning, learning, and evolving are essential parts of faith.

From childhood church experiences to the 2016 election, from navigating disagreements in congregations to raising kids who ask big questions, this episode lays the foundation for the conversations to come—about politics, faith, and everything in between.