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Warren Buffett and Charlie Munger take shareholder questions at the 1995 Berkshire Hathaway annual meeting, covering intrinsic value, capital allocation, and the circle of competence that keeps them out of businesses they can't understand. They explain why cash on the balance sheet is an admission of failure, why Graham and Fisher differ less than people assume, and what made Wells Fargo worth owning when every bank with that much real estate exposure looked doomed. Along the way they cover Salomon pay, Lloyd's of London, the national debt, the USAir mistake, and why Berkshire has never split the stock.
0:11 - Bank stocks
2:51 - Writing a book
3:20 - Dividends
6:21 - Salomon pay
13:37 - Cash as residual
15:02 - Newspapers
18:36 - Hostile takeovers
20:38 - Graham vs Fisher
25:58 - Munger's stock sales
27:12 - Suspect accounting
30:23 - Lloyd's of London
34:29 - Global investing and buybacks
39:00 - Media attention
41:53 - GEICO returns
43:03 - Guinness
45:00 - The shirt
45:33 - Meeting date
46:33 - Foreign securities
48:15 - Helzberg
51:48 - Intrinsic value
55:50 - Stock price and Microsoft
57:48 - Business school education
1:03:55 - Ten years on
1:05:30 - Manager bonuses
1:09:00 - Foreign exchange
1:10:18 - Small-cap opportunities
1:14:36 - Lawyers and lawsuits
1:18:12 - A second Borsheims
1:21:46 - Return on equity
1:24:51 - What Berkshire adds
1:28:10 - Growth, size and reading
1:33:51 - Wells Fargo vs PNC
1:36:35 - Negative equity and buybacks
1:40:29 - Credit cards and banking
1:45:31 - Moats at SunTrust and PNC
1:46:11 - The Salomon casino remark
1:47:42 - National debt and more Coca-Cola
1:57:32 - Berkshire vs a money manager
2:00:27 - Insurance returns and judging management
2:04:25 - P/E and interest rates
2:08:33 - USAir
2:10:12 - Book recommendations
2:11:22 - The stock split question
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Warren Buffett and Charlie Munger open the 1995 Berkshire Hathaway annual meeting with the vote to authorize preferred stock, then take shareholder questions on capital allocation, insurance float, and how they actually value the operating businesses. They explain the Helzberg acquisition, why technology sits outside the circle of competence, and what went wrong at USAir. Along the way they cover derivatives, stock option accounting, the culture problem at Salomon, and why reluctance to sell a wonderful business is a feature rather than a flaw.
0:00 - Opening remarks
3:09 - The preferred stock proposal
9:49 - Preferred stock and dilution
16:02 - Shareholder votes on the preferred
19:17 - Preferred share rights
21:41 - Hybrid preferred structure
25:29 - The vote and adjournment
27:41 - Helzberg Diamonds announcement
34:19 - Family members on the board
38:26 - Chrysler
39:10 - Capital allocation to subsidiaries
43:14 - Multi-year insurance policies
49:01 - Catastrophe insurance competition
52:46 - Technology investing
56:22 - Writing down USAir
1:01:30 - Economic value added
1:06:16 - Derivatives
1:12:46 - Salomon's outlook
1:17:46 - American Express
1:23:34 - Stock option accounting
1:29:12 - Meeting videotapes
1:31:25 - Borsheims sales
1:31:54 - Succession planning
1:37:01 - The discounting period
1:40:18 - Future use of preferred stock
1:42:40 - Insurance float
1:45:01 - The Beardstown Ladies
1:46:05 - Economic rules of thumb
1:52:04 - Valuing the operating businesses
1:56:41 - Salomon's culture
2:01:52 - Ben Graham editions
2:04:35 - Future returns and reluctance to sell
2:16:45 - Screening a first investment
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Warren Buffett and Charlie Munger take shareholder questions at the 1994 Berkshire Hathaway annual meeting, covering intrinsic value, capital allocation, and why they will not step outside the businesses they can actually understand. Buffett opens on derivatives, warning that combining ignorance with borrowed money has always produced interesting consequences, and points to Procter and Gamble as the early evidence. He explains how they discount future cash at a rate set by their certainty about the business, why he would pay two million dollars not to read a seller's projections, and how to judge a management team by how they played the hand they were dealt and how they treat their owners. He rejects volatility as a measure of risk, arguing that a business returning between twenty and eighty percent is treated by the academic world as riskier than one returning five percent every year, and describes pricing catastrophe reinsurance to exposure rather than to recent experience. He also talks about holding more than a billion dollars in cash as an index of management failure, why he has never sold a good business because of a guess about the market, and why he and Munger allocate every dollar themselves with no staff to help them.
1:45 - The use of derivatives
4:37 - Investment in Cap Cities
6:37 - After-tax free cash flow value
9:21 - Intrinsic value of the insurance operations
11:30 - Splitting the shares
13:57 - Buffett's use of The Indefensible
14:59 - Management and life goals
18:22 - Question on Ajit Jain
23:36 - Question on Guinness
26:02 - Berkshire after Buffett
28:53 - Reverse splits, 100x returns and stamps
33:41 - Greenspan, the Fed and interest rates
35:26 - Opinions on Berkshire's value
37:31 - Banks and buybacks
42:10 - Leverage at Salomon
47:14 - Sale of a mutual savings and loan
48:56 - Munger on changing his mind
49:41 - The shoe industry
51:25 - The tobacco business
52:40 - Business acquisition considerations
55:13 - The LA quake and insurance
1:00:02 - Recommended books
1:02:35 - Uncertainties for global brand leaders, Nike and Reebok
1:08:15 - Airlines and USAir
1:11:35 - Munger's retirement
1:12:38 - Sale of Cap Cities shares
1:13:53 - Structured settlements
1:14:53 - Wrigley
1:15:58 - Global diversification
1:18:43 - Explaining insurance losses
1:21:02 - Bullish or bearish?
1:25:23 - Private versus public markets
1:30:32 - Berkshire's intrinsic value relative to market price
1:33:59 - The view of risk
1:38:37 - Tax rates
1:42:54 - Interest rate sensitivity in certain businesses
1:45:40 - Retroactive insurance
1:48:34 - Berkshire's preparation for times of distress
1:51:13 - Freddie Mac and Fannie Mae
1:53:14 - Faster information and the cost of a missed opportunity
1:55:39 - Berkshire buybacks and intrinsic value
1:59:40 - Peter Lynch
2:00:47 - Reinsurance
2:06:20 - Guinness
2:06:53 - World Book and the Buffalo News
2:09:18 - Breaking Berkshire into smaller entities
2:11:08 - Sale of General Dynamics
2:12:30 - Volatility in the Berkshire share price
2:16:05 - Question about cash
2:18:09 - Question about Salomon
2:19:14 - The use of puts at Berkshire
2:21:06 - Stories about Berkshire not in the annual report
2:23:11 - Berkshire ending up on an index
2:24:52 - Position sizing in a given security
2:28:16 - Growth at Coca-Cola
2:29:20 - Question on convertible bonds
2:31:02 - Market impact when Berkshire sells a security
2:32:11 - Key-man insurance for Berkshire
2:32:48 - Currency risk in the Guinness investment
2:38:20 - Question on Berkshire's intrinsic value
2:39:31 - Succession at Coca-Cola
2:39:42 - Question on Salomon
2:41:25 - Merits of the different Berkshire holdings
2:43:30 - Method for arriving at an intrinsic value
2:46:49 - Growth rates in companies
2:49:06 - Capital allocation decisions at Berkshire
2:54:18 - Two or three investment lessons from Maynard Keynes
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Investing Legends is a long-form podcast dedicated to the thinking, principles, and decision-making frameworks of the world’s most respected investors.
Each episode explores the ideas of…
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