Today's interview is with Irene. I recently fell in love with her when I discovered her podcast, "I Want To Be Her When I Grow Up". She's 15 funny and smart, joyful and grounded. I actually want to be her when I grow up. An up and coming musician, she just put out an album "Do Better". I'm honored she's sitting down with me today and can't wait to dive in.

Matriarch Digital Media (matriarchdm.com) produces this and other podcasts that understand, encourage and uplift women.