We're jumping over The Bell for now to land on 'The Nice and The Good', Iris Murdoch's often-overlooked 1968 novel. In many ways, this is an archetypal Murdoch novel, and despite its darkness (including satanic ritual, possible murder and a near-drowning), it's shot through with light. With me to discuss is Paul Hullah, who alongside his poetry and academic work, keeps the Murdochian flame alive in Japan. Enjoy! 

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