What happens when men drop the tough-guy act and actually show up for each other? In this eye-opening conversation with guest Ben, we dive deep into what authentic male friendship looks like beyond surface-level church groups.

Ben shares the moving origin story of his unusual men's group, which began in 2008 when he committed to weekly meetings with a friend whose wife had died by suicide. Dominoes and baseball games evolved into a brotherhood of five men who've carried each other through cancer diagnoses, deaths of spouses, raising children with special needs, and career struggles. Unlike typical men's ministry breakfasts, these guys embody what Scripture means by "a cord of three strands is not quickly broken" - becoming what Ben calls "the guys who would dig through the roof" to get their friend to Jesus.

Whether you're struggling to find meaningful male friendships, wondering how to support the men in your life, or simply curious about how faith communities can better serve men's emotional needs, this episode offers practical wisdom and heartfelt encouragement. As Ben powerfully asks: Who's going to dig through the roof for you when life falls apart?