This epsode plumbs no organized themes...Yeah we may get back to funeral doom...But I hope doesn't happen in an obvious way....Talking to kindred spirits about metal may lead somewhere or not...Here Ben and Jono talk about a lot of bands but one theme that emerges that is the touch stone for this episode is how metal that rejects irony seems to connect most with our raw (hardened) hearts...Music excerpts from The Dillinger Escape Plan, Enslaved, Morphine, and Bell Witch pour forth...A little stoic philosophy sprinkled in as well...