People often ask Dr. Johnson if astral projection (also known as an out of body experience or OBE) is the same as a lucid dream. No, it is not.

Dr. Clare Johnson will share:

Whether you're brand new to the concept or have been curious for a while, this episode dips into the wonderful world of out of body experiences.

OBEs aren’t just for mystics or seasoned meditators. In this episode, you'll learn how everyday people can experience OBEs naturally, safely, and intentionally.

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