What if Bitcoin could generate yield… without giving up custody?

In this episode, we dive into the $1 trillion opportunity on the Lightning Network and how Bitcoin treasuries are starting to deploy capital to earn yield, process payments, and build entirely new financial infrastructure.

We break down how companies like Jack Dorsey's Block (Cash App & Square) are leveraging Lightning at scale — onboarding millions of merchants — and why this strategy could redefine how Bitcoin is used globally.

🎙️ Featuring insights from Dave Lund, we cover:

⚡ How the Lightning Network actually generates yield

💰 What “liquidity leasing” is and why it’s a massive opportunity

🏦 How Bitcoin treasuries (like LQWD & B-Hodl) are positioning themselves

📈 Why Lightning payment volume is exploding (100x growth)

🔐 The real risks of deploying Bitcoin (hot wallets & security)

🌍 What the next 3–5 years could look like for Bitcoin payments

This is not just about “number go up”, this is about Bitcoin becoming a global payment network.

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00:00 Block Inc. vs Other Lightning Bitcoin Treasuries (Key Differences)

04:11 4M Merchants on Lightning + 9.7% Yield (Explained)

07:41 How Lightning Routing Actually Makes Money

09:47 Why NOW Is the Best Time to Build on Lightning1

4:24 Node Economics: How Treasuries Earn Yield

21:08 Liquidity Leasing: The Hidden Business Model

26:43 The Big Opportunity for Bitcoin Treasuries

31:57 Lightning in 3–5 Years (Bold Predictions)

Big thanks to Little Bubble for allowing us to use his song: "One Chair": https://open.spotify.com/track/0XW7JgR2Nlg7WXGOeVT64h?si=a344b82984f74f81

DISCLAIMER: This is not is financial advice. This podcast is for educational and entertainment purposes only.

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