Good friend of the show, Ti WIndisch from The Gyro Step Podcast Network (GSPN), stops by to discuss whether or not the Pacers and Bucks are considered rivals after their 11 meetings last season. They also dive into a lengthy discussion on what is this version of the Bucks, what is their window, and are people sleeping on Giannis and Dame? This was a great back and forth convo, where Ti has a lot of respect for Indiana and their run to the Eastern Conference Finals and Alex gives Milwaukee a lot of praise for their offseason moves and competitiveness without Giannis in the Playoffs. At the beginning of the show, the guys dive into some WNBA talk, specifically Ti's admiration of Caitlin Clark and the Indiana Fever. Ti reveals that he is a BIG FAN of the Indiana Fever and what they're building. In addition to that, we close out the show, as per usual, with another Pacers and Bucks crossover draft.

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