In this episode of The New CISO, host Steve Moore speaks with Ben, Director of Group Security and Architecture at Bilfinger, about the role of self-awareness, confidence, and communication in effective cybersecurity leadership.

Ben shares his unconventional path to becoming a CISO, how he applies the “done is better than perfect” philosophy, and why embracing vulnerability, curiosity, and creativity is key to building strong teams. From baking sourdough to producing his own podcast, Ben highlights how personal passions can shape professional growth.

Key Topics Covered:

• Why done is better than perfect can be a strength—not a flaw—in cybersecurity
• The surprising connection between baking sourdough and fostering security culture
• How Ben’s podcast, Infosec Theater, educates non-technical audiences using humor and storytelling
• The creative interview question he uses to gauge mindset: “If cybersecurity were an animal, what would it be?”
• Why hiring for attitude and resilience beats hiring for experience alone
• How podcasting sharpened his ability to listen, simplify, and lead

Ben also emphasizes the importance of recognizing your own strengths and surrounding yourself with people who balance them out. His perspective offers actionable takeaways for CISOs and security professionals seeking to grow into thoughtful, human-centered leaders.

🔗 Listen to Ben’s podcast, Infosec Theater: https://www.infosec.theater/