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In this powerful and timely episode, Nick Richtsmeier and Brad Farris dive into the pervasive undercurrent of fear that’s shaping both politics and the workplace. From the physiological and psychological roots of fear to its impact on leadership, decision-making, and organizational culture, the conversation explores how fear manifests in leaders and teams alike.

Nick breaks down the classic "Four F's" of fear—fight, flight, freeze, and fawn—and how these instinctive reactions show up in modern leadership contexts. Brad adds depth by highlighting how fear hijacks our ability to think clearly, and how leaders can regulate themselves to respond rather than react.

This episode is packed with real-life leadership tensions, practical self-regulation strategies (aka “the ice pack”), and some sharp reflections on how fear gets coded into everyday business language. It’s a must-listen for anyone navigating uncertainty, leading in turbulent times, or just trying to stay grounded.

We live in a time where leadership is both at risk and never more needed. And the line will be drawn based on how leaders deal with fear.

📚 References & Mentions

Books, Articles, and Ideas:

• "On Bullshit" by Harry Frankfurt

Movies:

• Children of Men (2006)
• Minecraft: The Movie

Psychological Concepts:

• The Four F’s of Fear:
  • Fight, Flight, Freeze, Fawn
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