They both talked about the eye-catching book cover and what motivated Jon Mills to write this thought-provoking and eye-opening book, which poses many interesting questions for readers to ponder. We explored how people become desensitized and detached from humanity, often recording crimes instead of calling the police.

Jon Mills explained the concept of "Collective Bystander Disorder" and its impact on social issues today. We also discussed living in fear, the lack of empathy and respect for one another, and whether we can continue to exist on our current path of destruction. Topics such as the environmental impact of climate change and the rise of anti-Semitism were also covered.

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