<p>Donald Trump appointed Mark Esper Secretary of Defense. During the stormy 16 months he was in office, Esper often clashed with Trump’s directives to use the military in ways Esper thought inappropriate, including using the military to change the election results. Trump fired Esper in November 2020 a few days after he lost the election. Esper, a lifelong Republican, tells Jim he is not supporting Trump for President in 2024.</p>

Donald Trump appointed Mark Esper Secretary of Defense. During the stormy 16 months he was in office, Esper often clashed with Trump’s directives to use the military in ways Esper thought inappropriate, including using the military to change the election results. Trump fired Esper in November 2020 a few days after he lost the election. Esper, a lifelong Republican, tells Jim he is not supporting Trump for President in 2024.

Is the Oath of the Cabinet to Trump or the Constitution? | Mark Esper

Conversations with Jim Zirin is a talk show designed to analyze national and world events. The series features high-profile guests from the worlds of politics, law, business, foreign relations, national security, counterterrorism, media, lifestyles, literature, the arts, and the military.

The series is hosted by Jim Zirin, a leading litigator and contributor to major publications including Forbes, the Daily Beast, the Nation, The Times of London, The Washington Post, The Daily News, and the Los Angeles Times. He is the author of three books: The Mother Court—Tales of Cases That Mattered in America's Greatest Trial Court, Supremely Partisan—How Raw Politics Tips the Scales in the United States Supreme Court, and Plaintiff in Chief—A Portrait of Donald Trump in 3500 Lawsuits. Jim served as an Assistant United States Attorney for the Southern District of New York in the Criminal Division under the legendary Robert M. Morgenthau.

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Conversations with Jim Zirin is a talk show designed to analyze national and world events. The series features high-profile guests from the worlds of politics, law, business, foreign relations, national security, counterterrorism, media, lifestyles, literature, the arts, and the military. The series is hosted by Jim Zirin, a leading litigator and contributor to major publications including Forbes, the Daily Beast, the Nation, The Times of London, The Washington Post, The Daily News, and the Los Angeles Times. He is the author of three books: The Mother Court—Tales of Cases That Mattered in America's Greatest Trial Court, Supremely Partisan—How Raw Politics Tips the Scales in the United States Supreme Court, and Plaintiff in Chief—A Portrait of Donald Trump in 3500 Lawsuits. Jim served as an Assistant United States Attorney for the Southern District of New York in the Criminal Division under the legendary Robert M. Morgenthau.

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