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Is the Trinity Really Co-Equal & Co-Eternal? Mark 13:32 Sparks a Heated Debate


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What happens when someone drops into a live Ask A Christian Podcast chat and says the co-equal, co-eternal Trinity isn't actually in the Bible? You get this episode. Nate and the panel open with the now-infamous "God is a bat" analogy from a rough Trinitarian debate elsewhere online (and counter with the classic triple point of water illustration), before a guest named Kio steps in to make the case that Jesus can't be truly co-equal with the Father — leaning hard on Mark 13:32, where Jesus says only the Father knows the hour. It's one of the most searched objections to the Trinity, and Nate walks through the hypostatic union, roles vs. essence, and why "greater than" doesn't mean "lesser in nature."

From there the conversation shifts into Bible translation territory: why ESV, NASB, and NRSV sometimes read differently, what the Johannine Comma is, and whether "gender inclusive" updates in newer translations are changing meaning or just clarifying it (spoiler: footnotes tell on themselves). A KJV-only joke turns into a real conversation about textual transmission, then things get lighter — sandals, tans, and the "was Jesus black" question makes an appearance before landing back on solid ground.
The back half tackles two meatier questions: is fasting still commanded for Christians today (Matthew 17:21 gets a hard look), and is grace merely relational or truly substantial — a debate that pulls in sanctification, justification, and what it actually means to be a "partaker of the divine nature" in 2 Peter 1:4.
Grab a seat — this one's a masterclass in staying charitable while disagreeing hard.

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⏱️ Timestamps

00:00 - Intro & the "God Is a Bat" Trinity Analogy
01:31 - The Triple Point of Water Trinity Analogy
04:36 - Debate: Is the Trinity Co-Equal and Co-Eternal?
09:24 - Does Mark 13:32 Prove Jesus Isn't Omniscient?
16:39 - Bible Translation Omissions & the Johannine Comma
19:07 - NRSV, NASB 2020, and Gender-Inclusive Translations
20:22 - Genesis 1:2: "Spirit of God" or "Wind of God"?
22:34 - Q&A: KJV-Onlyism & Was Jesus Black?
24:42 - Is Fasting Still Commanded? Matthew 17:21
29:21 - Debate: Is Grace Substantial or Relational?
34:35 - Partakers of the Divine Nature (2 Peter 1:4)

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