In the Autumn issue of The Face, we published a story about Victory Lap – the London radio show which is broadcasting a new generation of open-minded rappers. For this week's episode, our music director Davy Reed chats to Victory Lap boss Joe McDermott and journalist Yemi Abiade about the strength of the underground scene, as well as the current state of UK drill and the contested "chill rap" label. Oh, and Joe gives us a review of his first time hanging out with our editor Matthew Whitehouse (they went to an Eric Cantona gig).

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