Jessie contemplates how this phase of life feels like February and she sits down with her husband to talk all things middle age. And Chad has A LOT to say about it. And also, did you know he has "work Crocs?" This episode goes long as they get into discussing Jessie's battle with chronic pain, her recent CT scan and why it's so important to share our stories.

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