We speak with Isaac Stone Fish the founder and CEO of Strategy Risks - a business intelligence firm focusing on geopolitical risk.

He is the former Beijing correspondent for Newsweek and worked in China for many years. Amongst his many other current roles he serves as a contributor to CBS News, is an adjunct at NYU's Center for Global Affairs and has positions on the Atlantic Council and the Council on Foreign Relations

He is the author of America Second: How America’s Elites are Making China Stronger (Knopf) and lives in New York City.

https://www.isaacstonefish.com/

https://www.amazon.com.au/America-Second-Americas-Elites-Stronger/dp/0525657703

Among other things we discuss:

• What US-China relations would look like under President Trump or President Harris
• His book "America Second" and the history of influence peddling by former senior American officials in China
• Key issues such as Xinjiang, Taiwan, TikTok, Telsa, China and US Tech entrepreneurs
• What a more ethical and sophisticated approach for companies "engaging" with China should look like