The episode was recorded and released before the start of the Israeli operation in Iran.

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As speculation increases of an imminent attack on Iran’s nuclear facilities, Israel’s internal political turmoil shows no sign of calming. At the heart of the latest furore: the long-running debate over military service exemptions for the ultra-Orthodox. Who should serve—and who shouldn’t?

Yonit and Jonathan unpack the implications of this fiercely divisive issue, and look ahead to what it means for Israel’s future. Plus: a special conversation recorded at Unholy’s first-ever live event at London’s Queen Elizabeth Hall, with Yuval Noah Harari—historian, and one of Israel’s most original thinkers.

Yuval Noah Harari

Yuval Noah Harari is an Israeli historian and professor at the Hebrew University of Jerusalem. He is best known for his bestselling books, including Sapiens: A Brief History of Humankind, which explore broad questions about history, technology, and the future of humanity.

Oi Va Voi

Oi Va Voi is a British band known for blending Eastern European, Jewish, and indie music influences into a unique world fusion sound. Since their formation in London, they have gained a devoted following with their energetic performances and thoughtful lyrics.